I find it really difficult to believe that you actually posted this nonsense. It’s people like you always inventing urban myths, muddying the water and never of nearly as much help as a hindrance.
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The best binoculars (3 Viewers)
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Those choices are all way too heavy for somebody 60 years old, IMO. The Zeiss 20x60 weighs 59 oz. or almost 4 pounds! The Canon 18x50 weighs 2.6 pounds and it is a huge brick.Maximum magnification for handheld use leaves basically only stabilized binos.
Zeiss 20x60 can be found used and refurbished on German ebay for around 3,000 to 4,000€. Next best thing with the largest mag would be Canon 18x50IS for around 1,000 bucks. There is also a rare Russian Zomz 20x50 with mechanic stabilization but I found about zero info in English on the web. Maybe searching in Russian would be better but I am not sure one can even order one currently from Zomz.
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Conndomat
United States of Europe
Hi @Ms Hansson,
does your father have to wear glasses when observing with binoculars?
Some suggestions would not work.
Andreas
does your father have to wear glasses when observing with binoculars?
Some suggestions would not work.
Andreas
That is not nonsense. I think your recommendation of a Leica UVHD+ 12x50 for a 60-year-old man is non-sense. There are very few people that can hold 12x steady without a tripod. I know I can't begin to hold one steady, and I would never in my right mind recommend one.
Paultricounty
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Master Po, just because your eyes are failing you and your getting some arthritis doesn’t mean a lot of people can’t hold 50mm bins. I’m 65 and I use my 12x50 EL‘s all the time, 12 not my favorite but a lot of people have no issues with 12’s. Besides many vintage 7x35 SWA weigh more than the 50 EL and UV.
Binocollector
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If I can no longer hold 2 kilos when I am 60, I think I have done something wrong in my life.
But, I agree that they are bricks. The weight is less of an issue than the ergonomics. Because I can hold my Fuji FMTR 7x50 quite easily for long stargazing sessions and it is the same weight. But the ergonomics are better.
So when handheld and maximum magnification is the goal, there is no way around either a Zeiss 20x60 or a Canon 18x50IS.
If no stabilization then I think the NL Pure 12x42 with headrest seems like a pretty good suggestion.
But, I agree that they are bricks. The weight is less of an issue than the ergonomics. Because I can hold my Fuji FMTR 7x50 quite easily for long stargazing sessions and it is the same weight. But the ergonomics are better.
So when handheld and maximum magnification is the goal, there is no way around either a Zeiss 20x60 or a Canon 18x50IS.
If no stabilization then I think the NL Pure 12x42 with headrest seems like a pretty good suggestion.
Or their new Zulu 6 HDX 20x42. They're going to be hard to find outside the USA, however.
One thing to keep in mind is that at his magnification, it takes longer to find something because the field of view is so narrow. This is usually a magnification more often associated with spotting scopes.
You must be Superman! I could never hold above a 10x, and 12x was all over the place. Maybe I am going to have to quit drinking.
You would think so, and I am sure the 20x is harder to find something than my Zulu 6 16x42, but I have no problem spotting stuff with them at a distance. For sure, they are not the best choice for close up birding under trees. I use a SWA porro 7x for that. But if you want to see really close up, I mean REALLY close up, the Sig's are hard to beat.
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Paultricounty
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Yeah I was thinking that about you a long time ago
. And maybe time to hit the gym and lift some weights.You can hold the Fuji easier because it is a porro, and they are shorter and wider than a long roof prism. I would bet they feel 20% lighter when held up to your eyes. The Zeiss 20x60 and Canon 18x50 IS are battlefield tanks! You need to be the Terminator to hold those things up for any length of time. Get the Sig Sauer Zulu 6 16x42 or the Sig Sauer HDX 20x42. They are 20 oz. of pure IS bliss and cheaper too!
You're the old man! I am only 64, and I am sure I am in much better shape you being from NY.Yeah I was thinking that about you a long time ago
Paultricounty
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i doubt it. Whenever your visiting the big apple drop by the dojo , well do a little grappling and see what your made of.
It seems like the Zulu 16x42 is the best option - especially if it’s waterproof. I own the Canon 15x50 and while I enjoy the overall view - I wish it had better stabilization. In short, it takes out the shakes from the view, but the view still “sways” with your natural body movement as you hold it.
From what I hear, the Zulu’s stabilization is top notch. Worth checking them out
From what I hear, the Zulu’s stabilization is top notch. Worth checking them out
Aah, I love somebody that agrees with me! The Zulu stabilization is slightly better than the Canon's and I prefer the switch they use which keeps the IS on for 5 minutes and then shuts it off.
The best part though about the Zulu is they are 1/2 the weight of the Canon's because they place their objective lenses closer together, and they don't have all that wasted space between them with the added weight.
The Canon's look archaic compared to the modern space age look of the Zulu. Canon has never made much effort to upgrade or improve their IS line. The Canon 10x42 IS-L is the same old brick it has always been.
I wouldn't want to hurt an old man like you. Master Kan is a Dojo Master, grasshopper.
It is dicontinued.
You can buy a
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Oops. It is available here
Better to as about warranty.
Paultricounty
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That sentence sums up your knowledge of martial arts 🙄
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