Agreed, the better quality the higher the price almost always. As far as who’s going to pay $2000 for made in China over a European , very few. But what people will pay for is a $2000 Chinese product that’s better than a $2500 European one. Look how many people here were/are ready to pay for the Zeiss SFLs even if they were made in China.
According to his post in another thread he has "7x50 Fujinon FMT-SX(Best DOF), 7x42 Habicht, 8x30 Habicht, 8x30 E2, 8x32 BN, 8x32 Sightron". So the 10x32NL's bit the dust at some stage. Of course that list was from 10 days or so ago, so things have probably moved on since then!
But the 1032s NL’s were the best of the best of the best alpha we can buy. I heard him say that, I did, I did 😜According to his post in another thread he has "7x50 Fujinon FMT-SX(Best DOF), 7x42 Habicht, 8x30 Habicht, 8x30 E2, 8x32 BN, 8x32 Sightron". So the 10x32NL's bit the dust at some stage. Of course that list was from 10 days or so ago, so things have probably moved on since then!
Andreas
Lol, I’ll be a son of a gun. Here I thought I could qualify differences or lack there of from visual and tactile inspections. I’ve been leaving out my nose, this is a wake up call. Later today I’m heading over to daughters Highschool football field and laying out all my Portuguese and German binoculars and do the sniff tests. Maybe I should try to start on the 25 yard line until I get the hang of it. 😏
Paul, humor "Made in Germany"
It's obvious you're a static thinker, and it's equally obvious you know nothing about wine, or binoculars.
I still feel the NL 10x32 is the best 10x I have ever used, but I have gone back to 7x and 8x for the better DOF, bigger FOV, they are brighter and have a steadier view. I still have 7x42 Habicht, 8x30 Habicht, 8x30 E2, 8x32 BN, 8x32 Sightron and the Noctivid 8x42. I dumped the Fujinon 7x50 FMT-SX because the Habicht 7x42 is actually brighter in low light, and it is better on the night sky with more pin point stars and in real use there is not much difference in FOV and of course the Habicht 7x42 is 1/2 the weight of the Fujinon. It surprised me the Habicht 7x42 is better on the night sky than the Fujinon FMT-SX 7x50 even with the smaller aperture. I could see sharper, more pinpoint stars and more dust lanes in the Orion Nebulae than with the bigger aperture Fujinon. The Habicht star tested perfectly, so it has excellent optics. I wanted a compact for carrying on my bike when I ride the Poudre River Trail birding and I have tried every compact except the Zeiss Terra 8x25 and most are floaters meaning the eye cups are too short for the eye relief, but I decided the Zeiss Victory was the best because it has the biggest FOV, but I tried a Zeiss Terra 8x25 and even though the FOV was smaller it has less eye relief, so it worked better with my shallow eye sockets, and it didn't float as much, and it actually has excellent optics for a compact and I picked it up cheap for $250 new on eBay.According to his post in another thread he has "7x50 Fujinon FMT-SX(Best DOF), 7x42 Habicht, 8x30 Habicht, 8x30 E2, 8x32 BN, 8x32 Sightron". So the 10x32NL's bit the dust at some stage. Of course that list was from 10 days or so ago, so things have probably moved on since then!
I understand and can appreciate your experience, but it’s a very limited experience with a very very very small sampling. My experience is direct opposite as well as the majority of the people on this forum that have been buying German and Portuguese Leica‘s. That should be taken into consideration that it could be your samplings. I have two ultravids in my hand right now and if I cover up the labels , you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference at all.
No. Wrong I’m afraid. The UV’s were labelled ‘Made in Germany’ as well and that changed at the same time that they changed the labelling of the NV’s
I didn’t get you started on Swarovski, you got yourself started 😜. I was giving you my experience with over a half a dozen Swarovski‘s in the last 12 months. ( not tons, but maybe 15 lbs) And as far as the threads and complaints, for every one you can show me that somebody had a complaint, there’s probably 150 people who had no complaint. Maybe you could even research and see if there’s any posts about people saying there Swarovski focusers we’re fine.I have had tons of Swarovski's with bad focusers. Many were sticky and had uneven tension in one direction. It is intrinsic to design of the Swarovski focuser because of the spring they use in it. Where have you been? Swarovski's are infamous for their bad focusers. Every SLC I had had a poor focuser except the SLC 8x56. Just search for Swarovski Focuser's on Bird Forum and you will probably find 20 threads pertaining to it. I have had many NIB Swarovski binoculars with bad focusers and I have sent them into Swarovski, and sometimes they came back worse than they were in the beginning! Don't get me going about Swarovski focusers. Even in the NL, I had focuser problems. It started out good, and then it started developing slack and play in it. Here are some threads on NL focuser problems. We will get you up to speed! I still think the NL 10x32 is the best 10x binocular I have ever had, but I personally have difficulty holding 10x steady, and I prefer the better DOF, bigger FOV and steadier view of 7x and 8x anymore. Because of the shake with 10x, I don't feel you REALLY see any more detail than with a 7x or 8x. For birding, 7x and 8x are where it's at, jack.
Nl Pure focus wheel issue question
Hey everyone, I just received the Nl Pure 8x42. The focus wheel seems smooth throughout most of the clockwise rotation usually, but with counterclockwise there seems to be a slight grainy feeling/a subtle resistance that is felt through most of that rotation (it almost feels like something is...www.birdforum.net
Nl Pure focus wheel issue question
Hey everyone, I just received the Nl Pure 8x42. The focus wheel seems smooth throughout most of the clockwise rotation usually, but with counterclockwise there seems to be a slight grainy feeling/a subtle resistance that is felt through most of that rotation (it almost feels like something is...NL Focus Wheel Problems After Washing
I always thought that soap and brush that came with the NLs was a bit of a silly gimmick. But, when in Ecuador a couple months ago I transferred some sun screen from my hands to my binoculars. I figured it would wear off eventually, but it hasn't. So, why not try out the soap and brush? Clean...NL Focus Wheel Problems After Washing
I always thought that soap and brush that came with the NLs was a bit of a silly gimmick. But, when in Ecuador a couple months ago I transferred some sun screen from my hands to my binoculars. I figured it would wear off eventually, but it hasn't. So, why not try out the soap and brush? Clean...
Your not going to believe this, but I did 😯. See what you did, you make people crazy , in a good way. 🤔Did you SMELL them?
Yes. and where would we all be then? Unable to read to your words of wisdom all day! Oh what a terrible, terrible situation..... By the way Dennis, I do believe you were getting a bit worked up in your last couple of posts?? Maybe time to take a break??
Or vodka!
We have to thank Al Gore for the internet 🤭
Maybe you shouldn't buy other peoples abused castaway crap on ebay.
It was never on the tracks.
I was told my Leica if it’s badged MIG, it’s older stock. Made Just before all manufacturing went to Portugal. factory.
