Brazil ID please (1 Viewer)

[purpleturtle]

I have a good idea of the first one and no idea on the second one.

The raptor photo was taken in Rio de Janerio botanic gardens last month.
The yellow finch? was taken in Buzios (100 miles up the coast from Rio).

 

[njlarsen]

The finch looks like a Immature Safron moulting to adult

Niels

 

[Jeff Hopkins]

I think the raptor is a snail kite.

Plumbeous kite would be my second choice.

 

[JWN Andrewes]

Raptor looks like a Harpagus Kite, which in that neck of the woods I think would most likely make it Rufous-thighed? Not sure if Double-toothed gets that far south.

James

 

[Motmot]

Raptor looks like a Harpagus Kite, which in that neck of the woods I think would most likely make it Rufous-thighed? Not sure if Double-toothed gets that far south.

James

Agreed. According to the map linked below and other websites D-t Kite southern limit reaches the Rio area so I'm also unsure...

http://www.surinambirds.com/img/maps/Double-toothed Kite.jpg

The bright orbital area possibly looks better for R-t Kite but this details often fail after an intensive photo search...

R-t Kite
http://www.flickr.com/photos/edupatrial/4139279750/lightbox/

D-t Kite
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_TsfLn9gw7...k6yWyjo-5E/s1600/Double-toothed+Kite+head.JPG

 

[JWN Andrewes]

Also by web browsing it looks like Double-toothed has a paler, more contrasting, tail band than Rufous-thighed, which again would tend to put the subject bird more in the Rufous-thighed camp.

James

 

[purpleturtle]

Thanks guys, I had the raptor as Rufous-thighed and just wanted to confirm. Disappointed that the finch looks like immature saffron as I wanted to add another species to my trip list.

Thanks again

 

[JWN Andrewes]

How was your trip? I had a great time out there back in 2005, I recall the gardens being good for Rusty-margined Guans and Slaty-breasted Wood-Rails, and it's where I got my last tick of the trip; White-eyed parakeet.

James

 

[purpleturtle]

It wasn't a dedicated birding trip but 2 early morning trips to the Jardim Botanico were a blissful escape from Rio. The channel-billed toucan, slaty-breasted wood rail and rusty-margined guans are still the specialty birds of the gardens. Capuchin monkeys and marmosets added to the enjoyment of my 50-odd bird species seen.