eitanaltman
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Poor Frank. His thread has degenerated into the typical "what is an alpha" semantics clusterF. Although I guess it's his fault for initiating the thread with that term in the title.
Poor Frank. His thread has degenerated into the typical "what is an alpha" semantics clusterF. Although I guess it's his fault for initiating the thread with that term in the title.
Lee, I once had the most unpleasant cause to spend 24hrs in a country hospital with I think what must have been the 2nd worst case of food-poisoning known to mankind (the 1st place soul didn't make it :gn.......
That *mess* reminded me of Nikon's strategic market placement .....
Chosun :gh:
...Nikon was also the first to use Flat Field technology in their binoculars, beginning with the SEs in 1995 and then later in their LX/HG series which also were Alpha's in their time. The way the Swaro Fanboys brag about their Swarovisons you would think the flat field was a Swarovski innovation. It's old technology.
Performance is not the definitive element.
Rather, the sole consistent factor, is cost. It seems the perception of binoculars complies with Veblen's theories in Theory of the Leisure Class. That is not to say they do not have excellent build quality and optics.
Nikon is like Seiko: Seiko produces some of the best, most innovative mechanical watches ever made (the Spring Drives and Grand Seikos), but is often perceived (in the US at least) as a cheap brand ..............................
......... Interestingly, in the segment of the scientific community that depends on high-end optical microscopes ($30-75K), no one doubts Nikon's status.
Swarovskis are great, but they are also consciously created and marketed as "status" binoculars.
Bingo! You got it!
Status: That is Swarovski's main (probably it's single) innovation in the binocular market. Marketing "status" binoculars.
Look at this ad from Swarovski AG:
http://www.swarovski.com/Web_US/en/...04000660.200&gclid=CJzbyLnQuLkCFYqZ4AodExEADQ
Swarovski markets "status"!
Lots of men "wear" their Swarovskis like a Repp tie!:king:
http://www.gilt.com/giltmanual/2011/06/repp-tie/
They do look good on a stuffed shirt though!
Bob
An 'Alpha' is neither about luxury goods, status, or cost.
It is about performance.
Chosun :gh:
Bob,
You missed out the holly grail - they have a Royal Warrant appointment to Queen Elizabeth ll.
Stan
.... Status: That is Swarovski's main (probably it's single) innovation in the binocular market. Marketing "status" binoculars.
Look at this ad from Swarovski AG:
http://www.swarovski.com/Web_US/en/...04000660.200&gclid=CJzbyLnQuLkCFYqZ4AodExEADQ
Swarovski markets "status"! .....
This is just another Swarovski envy thread.
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It is kind of a shame that a potentially good thread was derailed by lame semantics when the overall intent of this thread was relatively simple, particularly when considering most of FrankD's other posts.
"Alpha" has different connotations for different people; I believe that FrankD's question referred to alpha quality such as the SV EL, HT, Ultravid, and EDG. Some people may think it only refers to optical performance and some (such as myself) are interested in both optics and build/overall performance. Others use it in terms of status/price.
It is kind of a shame that a potentially good thread was derailed by lame semantics when the overall intent of this thread was relatively simple, particularly when considering most of FrankD's other posts.