I see the Verano's going for $490 US at B & H now ...around $520 at Optics Planet and Optics for Birding....all a two week order. They are $609 on Opticron's site. The Leopold BX-4 PRO GUIDE HD 8X32MM are $579 at Adorama, Optics Force and Amazon. Can't say how good the Leopolds are but I know the Verano's are a great buy.