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New AX Visio 10x32 binocular (2 Viewers)
- Thread starter John A Roberts
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That would indeed be useful.
Reading some more recent reviews on the internet. Some are quite negative, saying that the ID functionality gives them plenty of wrong answers.
That's not my experience so far. I mostly get a correct ID or the answer "No ID", but rarely a wrong answer.
What's your experience ?
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Yes, but not in figures: when you push the button half-way down you will see quarters of the "aiming circle" change, one at a time, from thin to bolder curves. Four of them, 0-25, 26-50, 51-75 and a highly theoretical 100% (or 75-100!). This is not reflected in the app as far as I have seen.
Those bolded circle sectors is what I meant, that is how the binocular shows the probability of ID being correct. Since that information is provided momentarily during ID, it should in my view remain in the metadata of the photo and be available for later analysis. Now we only have the species if the system provided an ID, or lack thereof if it didn't.
I am not sure you can talk about „probabilities“ here.
See attached the table from the Visio manual that describes the meaning of the bold circle segments.
2 segments getting bold just means „bird detected“, 3 segments means „inexact identification result“. It doesn‘t say HOW inexact.
Etc.
See attached the table from the Visio manual that describes the meaning of the bold circle segments.
2 segments getting bold just means „bird detected“, 3 segments means „inexact identification result“. It doesn‘t say HOW inexact.
Etc.
I hate it: you are quite right. I didn't read closely enough. So, it's a sort of two-stepped thing: 0-50, 51- more... At least that is honest.😄
The whole thing is somewhat difficult to interpret. One bold circle element means according to Swaro „Auto Focus complete, no GPS signal“, so you would expect nothing useful from it, but I have had correct bird identifications with only one circle segment lit bold.
That is why I was led to believe they represented probabilities. Mind you, there may be a connection: "I've got focus, don't know where I am, but I think it may be a (insert bird name) " which is between 0-25%?
Per
Thanks Canip, this clarifies things. Or maybe not. It would still be useful to have this data with the stored photo. GPS data is, but over that, at least level three/four would be nice to know. Based on the table, one segment should not provide an ID since the system would not have detected a bird at all, but I'm pretty sure I got some ID's with just one segment also. I don't have the AX Visio anymore, so cannot check further.
Hmm … not sure whether all reps understand all things all the time
Happy to answer any future queries (I’m sure Per is too).
I need a few more degrees temperature first. Using binos in this weather is not fun. Coldest winter in decades here...
I suppose the reply should have been "...and that was indoors..."🥶, but yes, it is some of the coldest weather I have experienced in the southeast, and how birds survive...they must have an incredible metabolism in addition to down, feathers and air sacks. And regardless of coatings: lenses will actively trap any humidity in the air. Brrrrrrr...
Clement weather and some minutes outside with the AX: there is a quartered "cake" visible when identifying in the ax. When provoking the ID I saw that it was accompanied by this cake, and the number of lighted quarters seemed to be associated with how "sure" the app is of its id attempt...
And focus is all important, here as otherwise.
And focus is all important, here as otherwise.
