Newton Abbot Devon UK - 2 birds to identify (1 Viewer)

[HallyHall]

Hello everyone. Thanks in anticipation of your kind assistance in helping me identify these two birds. I thought that they are either male and female Sparrowhawks or Goshawks. However the more I read the more confused I have become. Both birds had just killed Woodpigeons.

 

[KenM]

Both Sparrowhawks.👍

 

[HallyHall]

Both Sparrowhawks.👍

Thank you👍🏻

 

[Alexander Stöhr]

Hi Hally,

welcome to Birdforum!

I agree with Ken, first is a juvenile bird (pale buffish fringes to brown upperparts) and the second an adult (at least 2cy+) female.

I know that german is a difficult language for non native speakers, so you might not find german sites. I hope this is helpful:

 

[HallyHall]

Thank you Alexander. Most helpful video which is much appreciated