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Are you sure? I never seen a Monk V in the Pyrenees, and I do not remember more than 2-3 Lammegeier at any one location. That does not mean that mixed flocks do not occur, but that the majority of birds in a large flock (if not all) are going to be Griffon.

Niels
This black vulture turned up to feed in the Chistau Valley in Aragon when I was there in 2015. I believe it was part of the Catalan reintroduction. Present also were well over a hundred griffons, 6 Egyptian Vultures and well into double figures of adult and immature Lammergeiers (it was difficult to put a precise number on them in the melee). I had accidentally turned up when they were putting food out for them and the sky was full of vultures. The black vulture stood out immediately amongst them when it appeared.
 

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Good to know that things have changed for the better. I got my Monk/Black V in Portugal a few years back.

Niels
 
Good to know that things have changed for the better. I got my Monk/Black V in Portugal a few years back.

Niels

Monk Vulture is now widespread and locally common in Spain, which is a big change since I saw my first back in 1992 when it was a rare bird to be found in Extramadura. Even around Madrid it is easy to see nowadays!
 
The "masked" face is one of the numerous details confirming this obvious Griffon Vulture.

https://media.gettyimages.com/photo...ing-sierra-de-guara-spain-picture-id500245586
Yes, and one can also see that detail on Barred Wobbler's picture of Griffons. I've never seen Lämmergeier in the wild, but the posture looks spot on for Griffon.


Even around Madrid it is easy to see nowadays!
I can confirm that as well, going back as far as 2013 in my case.
 
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Good to know that things have changed for the better. I got my Monk/Black V in Portugal a few years back.

Niels

I had my first Andalusian one this spring when I photographed it coming in on northbound migration over the Strait at Punta Carnero.
 

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The "masked" face is one of the numerous details confirming this obvious Griffon Vulture.

https://media.gettyimages.com/photo...ing-sierra-de-guara-spain-picture-id500245586

Spot on Valéry - and the thin looking bill may just be due to the bird having its head tilted, something Grifos do all the time in flight. I think I must have seen half of all the Griffon's in Iberia, or something like that - no joke ;) The OP's photo has a little something that got me questioning and the suggestion of Lammergeier got me thinking - too much! As I said happy for the bird to be a Griffon - though I'm a little forlorn with me for dabbling!
 
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I happily concede that the apparent Masked face on the image of the bird we have been looking at could equally well fit the profile of Griffon Vulture (possibly)
 
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