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Ivory-billed Woodpecker (formerly updates) (4 Viewers)
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Edward woodwood
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I'm here till Weds MMinNY
enjoy it
wise words from John Wall: Birding magazine has been in free fall ever since the dudes who took over the American Birding Association fired Paul Lehman as editor. The latest issue, March-April 2007, an Ivory-billed Woodpecker special, establishes a new low, unless it's an April Fools parody of a birding magazine. There is an article by somebody who claims he saw an Ivorybill in South Carolina 20 years ago, an article entitled "Saving the Ivory-billed Woodpecker" by a woman who studies foxes, and another article by Luneau of the infamous video. To top it off, the ABA is selling Ivory-billed Woodpecker coffee! Anyone still a member of the ABA who is not a member of the OBC, NBC, ABC and OSME should reallocate the annual subscription.
and i saw this on Tom's site. Nice style whoever it is...
Photos of Mennill: 8
Photos of dead IBWO: 3
Photos of live IBWO: ZERO
So Mennill's website clearly documents his existence and in a range of habitats. But having a website where the investigator/study species photo ratio is 8:3 with the latter all being dead indicates either a sense of self importance by the investigator or the state of extinction in the study species.
Or both.
enjoy it
wise words from John Wall: Birding magazine has been in free fall ever since the dudes who took over the American Birding Association fired Paul Lehman as editor. The latest issue, March-April 2007, an Ivory-billed Woodpecker special, establishes a new low, unless it's an April Fools parody of a birding magazine. There is an article by somebody who claims he saw an Ivorybill in South Carolina 20 years ago, an article entitled "Saving the Ivory-billed Woodpecker" by a woman who studies foxes, and another article by Luneau of the infamous video. To top it off, the ABA is selling Ivory-billed Woodpecker coffee! Anyone still a member of the ABA who is not a member of the OBC, NBC, ABC and OSME should reallocate the annual subscription.
and i saw this on Tom's site. Nice style whoever it is...
Photos of Mennill: 8
Photos of dead IBWO: 3
Photos of live IBWO: ZERO
So Mennill's website clearly documents his existence and in a range of habitats. But having a website where the investigator/study species photo ratio is 8:3 with the latter all being dead indicates either a sense of self importance by the investigator or the state of extinction in the study species.
Or both.
choupique1
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all of which confirms a lot of widely held views/beliefs outside of the birding community.Tim Allwood said:
Edward woodwood
Member
choupique1 said:
yep
and how many of the Florida birds did you see then?
it was 'birds' wasn't it?
Tim
Goatnose
Inspired by IBW
Well I imagine that bored is a nice way of saying totally bored, totally frustrated I had the same feeling when Cornell did not produce in 2005 => 2006. Myself not a possible sighting or audio or anything sound, or other wise since January 2006. I am now searching the Northern tip of an area that I started searching two maybe three years ago from the south. Should be finished by this fall, back track and start over. Yes, and no confirmed sightings to date but some possibilities. My outboard motor/boat will be out of the shop tomorrow so back to 100% in business this weekend, tired of paddling. Tired and looking forward to the conclusion either way as you. Thanks to Timeshadowed and others for having my back while searching. As long as the threads remain bias and you and I keep debating what we do the true answer will come. I will not quite searching will you?Ilya Maclean said:
Edward woodwood
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maybe 'powerful' is the new interesting?
Tim
Tim
Summer paddling
Where do you work out of? We're headed for the Atch in two weeks for a literary conference and a couple of days of paddling, but will undoubtedly be back in Arkansas in summer to visit the grandkid. I, for one, prefer to bird the Big Woods in spring/summer because there's so much more going on birdwise both in what's there and how much noise they're making (a failure, I think, of winter-only seekers).
I loved your photo, by the way--reminded me of the abandoned RR bed that runs south of Dagmar.
Madison
Goatnose,Goatnose said:
Where do you work out of? We're headed for the Atch in two weeks for a literary conference and a couple of days of paddling, but will undoubtedly be back in Arkansas in summer to visit the grandkid. I, for one, prefer to bird the Big Woods in spring/summer because there's so much more going on birdwise both in what's there and how much noise they're making (a failure, I think, of winter-only seekers).
I loved your photo, by the way--reminded me of the abandoned RR bed that runs south of Dagmar.
Madison
choupique1
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Tim Allwood said:
all of that information will come out at a later date.
Osprey_watcher
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Funny. I'm sure that's been said before.choupique1 said:
Oh yes about a hundred times.
Russ Jones
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Osprey_watcher said:
hmmm... I think what you have just said has been said more than a few times as well... my advice (and its just advice) would be to ignore the things that have been said numerous times before... it just makes it harder to find the few interesting posts that are in this thread. 10,000 posts and probably less than 100 good ones...LOL.. imagine all the wasted hours spent on repeating the same old garbage time and time again....
One more thing, Jane would you please let Tim speak for himself... it appears as though you like him.... a whole bunch... perhaps a little too much
but he's a grown man and I'm sure he can and will speak on his own behalf. Cheers,
Russ
humminbird
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Tim Allwood said:
Exactly the close minded attitude that I would expect from certain on this forum AND the reason some outside the community take the position they do!
MacGillivray's Trout
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humminbird said:
Close-minded or not, there are still no photographs of current, living IBWO. It's going to be tough to come up with a population estimate when you can't photograph a single bird. It's going to be tough to decide if conservation measures are working or wasting money if you can't accurately estimate the population.
lewis20126
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Russ Jones said:
How about all the wasted man-years and millions of dollars spent looking for an extinct woodpecker? All on the back of a grainy video of a Pileated Woodie and the word of a few stringers with duff / no optics.
Had all those resources been channelled into conservation of the Hawaiian endemics, just think what could have been achieved...in this context, the last three years of "searching" for the IBWO do not represent a farce but a tragedy.
Alan
sighting
good afternoon all.
I was just lurking around read the last few days posts and noticed that salar53 ratted me out, LOL.So I will go ahead and post notes,etc. related to my sighting on sunday.
good afternoon all.
I was just lurking around read the last few days posts and noticed that salar53 ratted me out, LOL.So I will go ahead and post notes,etc. related to my sighting on sunday.
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lewis20126
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Russ Jones said:One more thing, Jane would you please let Tim speak for himself... it appears as though you like him.... a whole bunch... perhaps a little too much
Cheers,
Russ
Hmmmm... see upthread - I think Tim may now be in India looking for rare and elusive species so may not be able to reply for a few weeks. Hey its even worse than the swamps, I don't think they even have broadband at Eagle Nest.
lewis20126
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TRE329 said:
Hi
You don't mention whether you used binoculars for your sighting. Could you elaborate on your optics and perhaps tell us what type they are?
Thanks
Ratted
Ratted you out? Jaysus, TRE329, that sounds bad!!!!!!!!! I only thought that your excellent sighting deserved a larger audience. I hope you don't mind.
Be prepared, though, for some "gentle questioning" on this thread.
In fact, brace yourself, man.
TRE329 said:
Ratted you out? Jaysus, TRE329, that sounds bad!!!!!!!!! I only thought that your excellent sighting deserved a larger audience. I hope you don't mind.
Be prepared, though, for some "gentle questioning" on this thread.
In fact, brace yourself, man.
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