Bird on a rock ID (close to Sofia, Bulgaria) (1 Viewer)

gkamov · May 1, 2020

Any thoughts about this bird? Perched high on a group of steep rocks in a rural area next to a river. Close to Sofia, Bulgaria.

Shots taken from approx. 250 m., do have that in mind

Thanks!

PYRTLE · May 1, 2020

First thought would be Blue Rock Thrush, typical pose.

KenM · May 1, 2020

Looks more like a Dunnock to me.

Cheers

PYRTLE · May 1, 2020

Could well be Ken.

RafaelMatias · May 1, 2020

Black Redstart for me.

lou salomon · May 1, 2020

..and for me.

ryckfour · May 2, 2020

Black redstart for me too

KenM · May 3, 2020

Just out of interest, apart from “probability” on location, just what are the salient points on this passerine that make it a Black Redstart, because the posture in all the images is most unlike Black Redstart?

Cheers

jogresh · May 3, 2020

Black Redstart. Posture looks spot on.

RafaelMatias · May 3, 2020

KenM said:
Just out of interest, apart from “probability” on location, just what are the salient points on this passerine that make it a Black Redstart, because the posture in all the images is most unlike Black Redstart?

Cheers

Just like the ones I can see from my window Ken

KenM · May 3, 2020

RafaelMatias said:
Just like the ones I can see from my window Ken

If they’re all leaning over like that...they must be of an older disposition then Rafael.

RafaelMatias · May 3, 2020

KenM said:
If they’re all leaning over like that...they must be of an older disposition then Rafael.

What do you see there that is not absolutely typical of Black Redstart behaviour Ken?
On the 1st pic it's apparently looking down, a pose they often assume just before diving down for some food item. The last one finally shows one in a guide book pose.

KenM · May 3, 2020

RafaelMatias said:
What do you see there that is not absolutely typical of Black Redstart behaviour Ken?

If memory serves (don’t see them everyday like yourself) however generally like other Chats...upright very much so.

Point being, with no “salient” features being evident...how can one be so positive because it’s a silhouette of a small thin billed passerine, how can you rule anything else out?

RafaelMatias · May 3, 2020

I don't need to rule anything out, because it doesn't seem off to me. It looks spot on to me.

gkamov · May 4, 2020

Just for the sake of comparison, here's some photos of a black redstart I saw in the same location a couple of days later and shot from the same distance.

Its behaviour was different from the calmer disposition of the ID bird in the original post - much more erratic and "nervous" (typical black redstart, if you ask me).

gkamov · May 4, 2020

Anyone thinking that the bird might be an Alpine Accentor?

rosbifs · May 4, 2020

Which bird are you talking about - the first or the second?

The first, original, bird looks like a Black Redstart.

The second photo subject in the second and fifth pictures does look like an alpine accentor but the first, third and fourth the bill looks too substantial and it looks almost thrush like... That said the bill doesn't look substantial enough for a Blue Rock thrush.

Sangahyando · May 4, 2020

RafaelMatias said:
I don't need to rule anything out, because it doesn't seem off to me. It looks spot on to me.

Doesn't look off to me, either. Besides, in the absence of closer shots showing more details, Black Redstart is the "safest" option.

Rotherbirder · May 4, 2020

Jeeez, we must be really bored in our respective lockdowns! FWIW, if the second series of images shows a definite Black Redstart, I can't see any reason why the first series doesn't! The fact that the bird is on the same stack may suggest that its a habitual perch for the bird which adds to the likelihood of the same individual appearing in each series. Beyond circumstantial evidence (speculation even), a firm ID isn't possible.

RB

KenM · May 4, 2020

Rotherbirder said:
Jeeez, we must be really bored in our respective lockdowns! FWIW, if the second series of images shows a definite Black Redstart, I can't see any reason why the first series doesn't! The fact that the bird is on the same stack may suggest that its a habitual perch for the bird which adds to the likelihood of the same individual appearing in each series. Beyond circumstantial evidence (speculation even), a firm ID isn't possible.

RB

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