AOS to discard patronyms in English names (2 Viewers)

[Lerxst]

Are there many species named for women? Surely can't be many!

Blackburnian, Anna, Virginia, and Lucy come to mind

Oh, and Grace

 

[Lerxst]

If they are having issues with white men because they were white men, how about having issues with the words Aztec and Inca, which are indelibly linked to human sacrifice at a grand scale?
Mexican/Nahua and Peruvian/Quechua are better options.

I think that they do have a problem with those names, but not because of the fact that those particular people engaged in atrocities. It is because our using their names is "cultural appropriation."

 

[Jacana]

Are there many species named for women? Surely can't be many!

Far fewer than men.

Off the top of my head in the AOS area there's Lucy's, Virginia's and Blackburnian Warblers

Elsewhere there's Eleonora's Falcon, Thekla's Lark, various Koepcke's birds and some named after wives of collectors- Mrs. Hume's, Mrs. Moreau's, Mrs. Gould's etc...

 

[Xenospiza]

Far fewer than men.

Off the top of my head in the AOS area there's Lucy's, Virginia's and Blackburnian Warblers

Elsewhere there's Eleonora's Falcon, Thekla's Lark, various Koepcke's birds and some named after wives of collectors- Mrs. Hume's, Mrs. Moreau's, Mrs. Gould's etc...

Narina Trogon is a funny one. I would like to know how the anti-eponym people think about a bird named after a Khoikhoi woman.

 

[mb1848]

"Surely they ate Bartram's Sandpiper?" Yes. I seem to remember refering to him as a "little puke" and not in a positive way.

 

[Jacana]

Blackburnian Warbler - Can we make an exception here?

Thinking about this for all of 5 minutes, I've been struck before by the similarities in colour between this as Narcissus Flycatcher. How about Narcissus Warbler?

 

[Lerxst]

Thinking about this for all of 5 minutes, I've been struck before by the similarities in colour between this as Narcissus Flycatcher. How about Narcissus Warbler?

Even if mythological, that name refers to a dead male European. Problematic.

 

[Mysticete]

By the way, here is the detailed list of the actual process to be used, and the priority given to different groups of birds.

Ad Hoc English Bird Names Committee Recommendations for Council of the American Ornithological Society (AOS) - American Ornithological Society

The American Ornithological Society (AOS) maintains a list of scientific and English names for bird species throughout the American continents and associated islands. These names are widely used by ornithologists, the public, and government agencies.

americanornithology.org

 

[Jeff Hopkins]

How about Motley Quail.

Mötley Qüail for you hair-band fans.

 

[Mysticete]

Mötley Qüail for you hair-band fans.

I mean, when that name was suggested that was my first thought

 

[dantheman]

Mötley Qüail for you hair-band fans.

I wondered what the reference was - and whether it was Motley Crue we were referring to ???

 

[Lerxst]

If one were to continue using the honorifics after these changes occur, would that be considered "deadnaming"?

 

[Paul Clapham]

What a rubbish idea to mangle a huge portion of current bird names, but my first proposal if it has to be done:

Steller's Eider - change to Stellar Eider

It's common around where I live to see "Stellar Jay" in writing, so that wouldn't be a big step.

 

[Paul Clapham]

Blackburnian, Anna, Virginia, and Lucy come to mind

We were discussing suitable new names for Anna's Hummingbird at the kitchen table this morning. Didn't come up with much, but then inventing vernacular names for hummingbirds is a really difficult task.

 

[dantheman]

Stella idea - we could all drink to that.

 

[Andy Adcock]

Some people don't mean all people.

But it will be forced on all people, as in other, similar matters.

 

[Andy Adcock]

Are there many species named for women? Surely can't be many!

Lady Amhurst's Pheasant, Mr's Gould's Sunbird, off the top of my head.

 

[Mysticete]

It's common around where I live to see "Stellar Jay" in writing, so that wouldn't be a big step.

Steller's will almost certainly be split soon. Maybe Bell's. So there are two species that will be getting renamed anyway.

 

[Lerxst]

More female honorifics:

Victoria Crowned-Pigeon
Victoria's Riflebird
Zenaida Dove (for Zénaïde Laetitia Julie Bonaparte, wife of the French ornithologist Charles Lucien Bonaparte and niece of Napoleon Bonaparte)
Princess Parrot (for Princess Alexandra of Denmark)
I read that the Gouldian Finch was named for ornithologist John Gould's wife.

Narina Trogon was already mentioned -- I read that this was the name of Francois Levaillant's mistress.

 

[Lerxst]

Is there a a quail sp. we can name Dasterdly Quail though?? (Or maybe a desert quail species we can rename as Dusterdly Quail ... )

Reminds me of Satanic Nightjar.