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New binocular day! Nikon 7x42 EDG (1 Viewer)
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The EDG is long in the tooth, and Nikon won't fix them unless you ship them to Japan. Nikon used an unnecessarily heavy rubber armor on the EDG that makes them almost 5 oz. heavier and much bulkier than the MHG. Nikon wisened up when they designed the MHG because they used a lighter armor only where it is necessary, and it made the binocular considerably lighter. Don't confuse build quality with extra weight. The MHG is built every bit as good as the EDG it is just lighter. The MHG is sharper on-axis, has a much bigger 8.3 degree FOV versus the EDG's puny 7.7 degree FOV, and it is much brighter than the EDG because the transmission is higher. Nikon discontinued the EDG for a reason, it couldn't compete with the SF or NL in FOV or brightness. EDG's are also hard to sell because they are discontinued. Here is a like new one that just sold after a month on Astromart for $990.
Reduced - Nikon EDG 10x42 Binocular **Sold** | Astromart
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Folks, FYI you just have to ignore Dennis' noise here. The troll posts again & again and I've spoken privately with 7-8 members here on this website who have either purchased EDG from me, or asked me how to order them, and loved them immediately when they arrive. Some choosing to retire their various Swaros and Leicas from the rotation.
It's hard to think of another website where the same user keeps repetitively posting gibberish over & over. I've never seen it before. What a shame. BF is very dysfunctional website. Now back to 10 more posts from the troll......why did I even come in here??? soon you'll be asking the same thing......
whoa....I just discovered the "ignore" button - wonderful! The deranged rantings have disappeared from my screen forever - it works really well!
It's hard to think of another website where the same user keeps repetitively posting gibberish over & over. I've never seen it before. What a shame. BF is very dysfunctional website. Now back to 10 more posts from the troll......why did I even come in here??? soon you'll be asking the same thing......
whoa....I just discovered the "ignore" button - wonderful! The deranged rantings have disappeared from my screen forever - it works really well!
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tenex
reality-based
One should have learned that anything negative said to Denco just gets thrown right back verbatim. It's all he knows how to do.
But he could still open our posts as I just did with his #44.
I was curious. Who's this "Dennis Mau" on my ignore list?
What could have been the motivation for the name change? Perhaps a vain hope to sideline the ignore lists of several members here.
That's OK. He'd still have to click to open them, probably a lot of them!
I just found the ignore link, lol! The EDG 8x42 I purchased from you are the best pair of binoculars I have owned or handled. It is a remarkable optical apparatus.
Trolls are irritating but you can’t avoid them in public. Near the place I used to work we often crossed paths with a person wandering around talking to himself. He wasn’t dangerous or anything, but many were fearful and wanted to avoid being in the same side of the street as that individual. But when we didn’t see him for a few months quite a few worried for his well being and were glad to see him soon after.
Remember back when denco received a warm welcome back, but now even those who were glad to have him back have joined the rest of us. If you're seeing that there are post numbers missing in your feed, you're in luck; it just means you don't have to read denco content.
So random story time... Around the time this thread was started, I found a purportedly New Old Stock US market 7x42 on eBay. Then I saw the very same EDG EDG pop up on Craigslist and FB marketplace. The guy who listed it is maybe within 30 minutes drive of me, so I reached out.
Long story short, the guy was alternating like a sine wave, hot to make the deal then ice cold. He was super responsive on Craigslist via phone text, then he ghosted me. I pinged him on FB place, very responsive, then again I was ghosted. I tried a couple more times and each time we were on the brink of meeting up, cash in hand, and each time the guy ghosted.
Then one day after about 6-8 months I noticed that they finally sold on eBay, and the buyer was delighted.
I had a good chuckle at seeing that.
Long story short, the guy was alternating like a sine wave, hot to make the deal then ice cold. He was super responsive on Craigslist via phone text, then he ghosted me. I pinged him on FB place, very responsive, then again I was ghosted. I tried a couple more times and each time we were on the brink of meeting up, cash in hand, and each time the guy ghosted.
Then one day after about 6-8 months I noticed that they finally sold on eBay, and the buyer was delighted.
I had a good chuckle at seeing that.
looksharp65
Well-known member
The MHG arrived today and I had fifteen minutes to play with it at noon, and then another 15 minutes this evening. This is the first time i touched a MHG regardless of configuration, and I must say it's exactly what I had expected after reading reviews from everywhere.
I find the brightness, contrast and colour rendition identical to the EDG 7x42 in daylight, in dusk and at night, most likely because my pupils won't dilate to match the 6 mm exit pupil of the EDG.
When I first received the EDG, I had major problems with eye placement and the resulting kidney-beaning. Now when that is sorted, I can enjoy the view as it was supposed to - breathtakingly sharp to the very edge, almost totally aberration free, contrasty, vivid and bright.
But the verdict I coined early in the process - 'An 8x42 with a six millimeter exit pupil' still stands. I had hoped it would be a successor to one of my favourite bins, the Vortex Fury 6,5x32 with lightning-fast focus action and extremely forgiving eye placement. Instead I got an instrument that qualifies as a legend albeit not from a usability aspect.
Imagine looking, or maybe walking through a pipe. Approaching the end you still see the pipe, but also the world outside of it magnified just like you just walked closer. It doesn't really introduce any tweaks of the view, which paradoxically makes it slightly underwhelming.
The view is very 'controlled' or somehow 'professional', maybe undemonstrative - quite the antipode to Nikon E II. I can't help but think Nikon could have moved out the fieldstop at the expense of edge sharpness. AFOV is after all similar to most other manufacturer's offerings, and Nikon chose to show their mastery with edge sharpness rather than a wide field.
There's no doubt EDG is optically superior to the MHG but it's not by a wide margin. To round off this comparison, for me the EDG never was intended to be the 'be all, do all' piece, and while it probably could be, I believe the auspices of adaptation deter me. Conversely, I could easily imagine the MHG 8x42 ascend that throne.
Is the MHG the perfect binocular? No. In fact the EDG might be closer to perfect. The MHG though is ideal and that's all that counts. Factoring in size, weight, exit pupil, FOV and the view tells a tale of a binocular where the compromises made almost don't cause any losses att all.
//L
Thanks for describing your impressions. I currently have the Nikon 8x30 EII, 8x42 MHG, 7x50 SP and the first edition Action 7x35 with a 9.3 degree field (the same version as the Golden Ring). I am very happy with all of them and they do not really compete with each other but rather complement each other. I used to have the 8x32 EDG and I liked it very much, which is why I have a sentiment for the EDG. Maybe I will decide on the EDG 7x42. Of course, this will not make me want to get rid of any of the binoculars I currently have.
Conndomat
United States of Europe
Hello,
my personal assessment is that the EDG 7x42 is superior to the 8x42 MHG in almost every area.
This includes both, optical performance and construction quality.
IMO the 7x42 EDG is still one of the best binoculars ever made in this configuration.
Just my 2 cent...
Andreas
my personal assessment is that the EDG 7x42 is superior to the 8x42 MHG in almost every area.
This includes both, optical performance and construction quality.
IMO the 7x42 EDG is still one of the best binoculars ever made in this configuration.
Just my 2 cent...
Andreas
Conndomat
United States of Europe
What am I supposed to do with someone who changes his mind about binoculars more often than he changes his underpants?
Andreas
Conndomat
United States of Europe
Dennis, when will the Habicht 7x42 be on your list again?
... and no, I don't want to jump over your sticks...
Andreas
So are you going to keep the 7x42 and 8x42? I like having both, the EDG/MHG would be a good combination, the light weight of the MHG good for longer carries.
I recently added a new 7x50 SP from the sale in Japan, wow, very impressive
Big heavy battleship of a binocular, IF and not well-suited to birding, but a magnificent specimen optically and mechanically. Absolute classic instrument for astronomy or marine use.....the sale at Kyoie is still going btw!
looksharp65
Well-known member
You know, I wrote that selling the EDG 7X42 would be heresy. It's the greatest 7x42 ever made and there won't be another better in the future.So are you going to keep the 7x42 and 8x42? I like having both, the EDG/MHG would be a good combination, the light weight of the MHG good for longer carries.
I recently added a new 7x50 SP from the sale in Japan, wow, very impressive
(although I believe the FL 7x42 is a better birding binocular)
But honestly, I'll probably keep it only for the sake of it. A collector's item. There are so few opportunities for me to use it because I strongly prefer using it with spectacles, and nowadays I nearly invariably use contacts, and when I use specs, I usually reach for the Meostar B1.1 8x32 which has the same FOV and is faster in real use. It replaces the Vortex Fury 6,5x32 in a brilliant way the EDG can't. The MHG 8x42 has the same type of no-delay, instantaneous view as the Vortex. The little Meopta doesn't lag too far behind.
I left the MHG at my workplace (I work to 6 pm and have no time to go home to collect my gear and get back out again) and hope this will be a great motivator to get out just after work. Thus, the 'world lines' of the EDG and the MHG may not cross very often. I don't have to make a decision whether to sell or keep the EDG, but I should, and really would like to take the EDG out more often. If I begin taking the MHG everywhere (i.e. betweem home and work), the rest of my ensemble might actually prove redundant
Funny that you mention the Nikon porro. Years ago I bought a used non-SP 7X50 (same body, can't recall the model name) and more or less sculpted it out from the block of cigarette tar it hid within. Later I sold it to a boatsman who had better use for it. There is some resemblance between the views of those two, but the EDG obviously has better brightness and truer-to-life colour reproduction.
//L
