Hermann
Well-known member
I think you mean Gary, but he's got his own repair shop now and has worked for Zeiss in between...
No, not Gary. It was someone else.
Hermann
I think you mean Gary, but he's got his own repair shop now and has worked for Zeiss in between...
I understand all the above comments, and really, this is OMHO, and I'm sure that Jan is a good dealer and has his reasons. I think the thing for me is that the Retrovid is exactly that - a retro boutique product, not intended to be a part of Leica's competitive line up.
Most of this thread has been a catalogue of reasons as to why many of the cognoscenti here will not consider the new Trinovids to be a worthy contender, and now we have dealers throwing the baby out with the bath water because they (like all other non-exclusive Leica dealers) are not allowed to sell the new toy. There seems to be some irony there to me. BUT, it's just my 2 cents. I'll shut up now! B
As referred to by Gijs in post #191 - Jan’s ‘Nocti-Mobile’!
John
Shows the absolute dedication! I very well understand that such a store owner considers it a breach of trust. And when that happens, something more important than money is involved. I'm glad to see that there are still people whose value system is not limited by money.
You can complain all you want about What is the difference where you buy them? I get the first pair of Retrovid's 7x35 shipped in the USA Tuesday. I will give my opinion on them although your opinion might be different.
In Germany the first Trinovid availabe was the 8x40, I had a change to compare it at the Leica Store at KaDeWe in Berlin with a 8x42 Noctivid. It is a nice small binocular but off course not a Noctivid.
Waiting more than two years there was no doubt that I would get the 7x35. Meanwhile I did various comparisons with the Zeiss Dialyt 7x42, Celestron Granite 7x33 and Kowa 6,5x32. (There ist lengthy discussion in the Jülich Forum). My impression, it is a very well build binocular, with high contrast, very good sharpness in the center, slight pincushion distorsion, no globe effect. :eat: Yes, the FOV is 140 m instead of 150 m specified two year ago, but compared with the 150 m oft the Dialyt it is hardly visible. And it is not sharp to the edge. All in all, a very nice small binocular, not perfect but well made and fitting to the pocket of my jacket.
best
Thomas
Meanwhile I did various comparisons with the Zeiss Dialyt 7x42, Celestron Granite 7x33 and Kowa 6,5x32. (There ist lengthy discussion in the Jülich Forum). My impression, it is a very well build binocular, with high contrast, very good sharpness in the center, slight pincushion distorsion, no globe effect. :eat: Yes, the FOV is 140 m instead of 150 m specified two year ago, but compared with the 150 m oft the Dialyt it is hardly visible. And it is not sharp to the edge. All in all, a very nice small binocular, not perfect but well made and fitting to the pocket of my jacket.
best
Thomas
I understand all the above comments, and really, this is OMHO, and I'm sure that Jan is a good dealer and has his reasons. I think the thing for me is that the Retrovid is exactly that - a retro boutique product, not intended to be a part of Leica's competitive line up.
Most of this thread has been a catalogue of reasons as to why many of the cognoscenti here will not consider the new Trinovids to be a worthy contender, and now we have dealers throwing the baby out with the bath water because they (like all other non-exclusive Leica dealers) are not allowed to sell the new toy. There seems to be some irony there to me. BUT, it's just my 2 cents. I'll shut up now! B
Leica's previous collector's specials have all been sold through the dealers and I am sure the dealers are wondering whether other product lines in the future are also going to be limited to Leica stores or Leica's on-line store. Collector's specials might not have been big sellers for dealers but they might have attracted shop visitors to the Leica shelves.
If I was a dealer I would certainly be wondering whether the Retrovids are the thin-end of wedge heralding an increasingly reduced role for traditional dealers in the future.
Lee
In Portugal, all of them.
Canip
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Nobody asked Jan to create that ad vehicle. The fact he owns it doesn't make his case more righteous than any other dealer.