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No eBird Taxonomy update this year (2022)? (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Jim M.
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Surreybirder
Ken Noble
I imagine that they will do so soon.
I spoke too soon before - my life list has gone down this evening.
BAL Land
Well-known member
Interesting. Mine hasn’t.
l_raty
laurent raty
Now done -
Updates & Corrections – October 2022 – Clements Checklist
2024 Citation & Checklist Downloads – Clements Checklist
www.birds.cornell.edu
Jim LeNomenclatoriste
Je suis un mignon petit Traquet rubicole
Unbelievable they don't added the genus Leucoptilon for the white tailed flycatcherNow done -
Updates & Corrections – October 2022 – Clements Checklist
www.birds.cornell.edu
2024 Citation & Checklist Downloads – Clements Checklist
bonxie birder
Stirring the pot since 1965
Common/Green-winged/Eurasian Teal? Neither IOC nor Clements/eBird are keen to budge on this one. I wonder who will give in first?
Its the only difference that truly affects the majority of British lists.
Its the only difference that truly affects the majority of British lists.
Mysticete
Well-known member
When I rechecked the WGAC page, Parulidae was mentioned alongside Tyrannidae as a group working on being implemented. However, There has been no reconciliation yet on Yellow-rumped or Yellow Warblers, the latter of which IOC/Birdlife recognizes 3 species, and IOC also recognizes at least two species of Yellow Warbler.
So...are these waiting for new NACC proposals? Because NACC in my opinion erred significantly in continually refusing to recognize that split.
So...are these waiting for new NACC proposals? Because NACC in my opinion erred significantly in continually refusing to recognize that split.
Mysticete
Well-known member
They were clearly focused on species level taxonomy this around (and probably next year too)Unbelievable they don't added the genus Leucoptilon for the white tailed flycatcher
Surreybirder
Ken Noble
Well so far they haven't split osprey and haven't lumped lesser and common redpoll - both of which I've seen touted.
Kirk Roth
Rarely to be taken seriously
You might have some skepticism of whoever is touting these. IOC re-lumped Osprey this year, so I'm not certain if any major checklist has them split now. Clements certainly won't go against the grain on this.
And despite all the evidence to the contrary, sadly I'm not aware of much movement by any checklist committee in lumping the redpolls... yet. The research showing they are one species was published in 2015 I believe, and the "supergene" research that showed why was at the end of 2021 if I recall correctly. I think a lot of the speculation about a lump this year was based on "hope" spurring from this, rather than any actual action. The AOS committee has gone so far as to reach out to Birdwatching Magazine and mention they were open to reconsidering if a proposal was sent - but nobody sent one last year.
Birdlife International lumped the redpolls several years ago, so WGAC (and hence IOC... and hence maybe Clements?) may tackle the issue once they get around to the finches in their effort to align the world checklists. At that time, I would expect AOS-NACC to field a proposal on this. I think this must be a hectic year for checklist committees due to the WGAC efforts - they might be hesitant to tackle too much at one time knowing that a steady stream of proposals is headed their way. In other words, why push for the redpoll or warbler proposals when you're busy with so many others and you know they are on their way in a year or two?
Surreybirder
Ken Noble
I think that splitting ospreys would have been the 'high tide' of splitting. I've seen them in Australia, the US and Canada and the UK - so I wouldn't mind if they were split. But there has to be a legitimate scientific reason behind it.
Steve Lister
Senior Birder, ex County Recorder, Garden Moths.
I have now worked through the splits and lumps as they affect my list of about 5100. 28 gains and 8 losses. Some I had not seen mentioned anywhere so nice surprises.
The only blip I noticed anywhere on the spreadsheet was some confusion about the English name Tuamoto Kingfisher, also given as Mangareva Kingfisher.
The only blip I noticed anywhere on the spreadsheet was some confusion about the English name Tuamoto Kingfisher, also given as Mangareva Kingfisher.
Surreybirder
Ken Noble
That's an incredible list, Steve. I have a modest 1,011 - up one but I still haven't figured out where the new species has come from. Possibly the pigeons as there seem to have been quite a few changes there.
awiner
Well-known member
For me +31 splits, -2 from lumps - spending lots of time in the neotropics and relatively little time in Africa was the key for this cycle! I've been waiting 20 years for that Wagtail-Tyrant split, which was pretty obvious back then.
Surreybirder
Ken Noble
Thanks awiner, you'v e solved my problem. I've gained a pipit (either NZ or Australian).
Steve Lister
Senior Birder, ex County Recorder, Garden Moths.
Another little blip on the downloadable Clements sheet......
Is it Collared Lory or Collared Lorikeet? Lory listed but Lorikeet in the notes.
Is it Collared Lory or Collared Lorikeet? Lory listed but Lorikeet in the notes.
raymie
Well-known member
eBird has it as lory.
Steve Lister
Senior Birder, ex County Recorder, Garden Moths.
And another.......
The spreadsheet lumps Barlow's Lark with Dune Lark but this is not mentioned in the list of lumps
But it is included in the list that awiner has included in the next post - odd
The spreadsheet lumps Barlow's Lark with Dune Lark but this is not mentioned in the list of lumps
But it is included in the list that awiner has included in the next post - odd
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awiner
Well-known member
Yeah, which makes no sense - the rest of the genus (Vini) is Lorikeet.
FYI, what I'm pretty sure is the full list of lumps is attached (though with a number of subspecies reassignments, there's plenty of other ways to lose a species; the page with the "full" details is missing some of these (e.g. Golden-bellied Flycatcher).
Dusky Scrubfowl/Forsten's Scrubfowl
Chestnut-naped Francolin/Black-fronted Francolin
Pink Pigeon/Reunion Pigeon
Black-shouldered Nightjar/Fiery-necked Nightjar
Abyssinian Nightjar/Rwenzori Nightjar
Archbold's Owlet-nightjar/Mountain Owlet-nightjar
Wedge-tailed Sabrewing/Long-tailed Sabrewing
Red-chested Goshawk/African Goshawk
Common Buzzard/Cape Verde Buzzard
Augur Buzzard/Archer's Buzzard
Madagascar Scops-Owl/Torotoroka Scops-Owl
Fraser's Eagle-Owl/Usambara Eagle-Owl
African Barred Owlet/Chestnut Owlet
Ural Owl/Pere David's Owl
North Moluccan Dwarf-Kingfisher/Seram Dwarf-Kingfisher
Bougainville Dwarf-Kingfisher/North Solomons Dwarf-Kingfisher
Malaita Dwarf-Kingfisher/Guadalcanal Dwarf-Kingfisher
Niau Kingfisher/Mangareva Kingfisher
Thick-billed Honeyguide/Lesser Honeyguide
White-crested Tyrannulet/White-bellied Tyrannulet
Brown Honeyeater/Indonesian Honeyeater
Perplexing Scrubwren/Large Scrubwren
Himalayan Shrike-Babbler/Blyth's Shrike-Babbler/Dalat Shrike-Babbler
Spike-heeled Lark/Beesley's Lark
Karoo Long-billed Lark/Benguela Lark
Cape Lark/Agulhas Lark
Fawn-colored Lark/Foxy Lark
Barlow's Lark/Dune Lark
Australasian Bushlark/Singing Bushlark
Crested Lark/Maghreb Lark
Anjouan Brush-Warbler/Malagasy Brush-Warbler
Eurasian Reed Warbler/African Reed Warbler
Scaly-breasted Cupwing/Chinese Cupwing
Tickell's Leaf Warbler/Alpine Leaf Warbler
Sunda Bush Warbler/Aberrant Bush Warbler
Common Hill Myna/Enggano Myna/Nias Myna
Arnot's Chat/Ruaha Chat
Royal Parrotfinch/Red-headed Parrotfinch
African Firefinch/Pale-billed Firefinch
Radde's Accentor/Yemen Accentor
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