Thanks. What happened to the rule that first time an abbreviation is used it needs to be defined?
Niels
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Robins are flycatchers? (2 Viewers)
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Niels
MJB
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MJB
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I notice that kind of omission in quite a few preprints...
MJB
Jim LeNomenclatoriste
Je suis un mignon petit Traquet rubicole
Where is the OD of Erythropygia coryphoeus eurina Clancey, 1969?
Björn Bergenholtz
(former alias "Calalp")
Unseen by me, but it ought to be found in: Durban Museum Novitates 8 (15): p. 240.
Good luck finding it.
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Jim LeNomenclatoriste
Je suis un mignon petit Traquet rubicole
No way to find the title of his work and number pages
l_raty
laurent raty
Clancey PA. 1969. Miscellaneous taxonomic notes on African birds. XXVII. 4. An adjustment to the names of Erythropygia coryphaeus (Lesson) forms. Durban Museum Novitates, 8 (15): 240‐241.
Issue 15 is lacking in Sabinet, unfortunately.
Snippet view in Google Books: Durban Museum Novitates
Jim LeNomenclatoriste
Je suis un mignon petit Traquet rubicole
Merci !
Björn Bergenholtz
(former alias "Calalp")
And, note that the OD says: "Erythropygia coryphaeus eurina".
Jim LeNomenclatoriste
Je suis un mignon petit Traquet rubicole
l_raty
laurent raty
Incidentally, the derivation of this name is not quite clear to me. The Key explains it as:
...but the description makes no reference whatsoever to the bird's bill (or nose), and I'm struggling to reconcile this with a derivation from ῥις.
(What about: Gr. ευ eu fine, good; ῥινος rhinos, skin, instead ? Possibly in reference to the fact that the receipt of freshly moulted specimens by the author was what resulted in the description of the taxon.)
l_raty
laurent raty
It can also mean "of good leather": Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon, εὔρι_νος
albertonykus
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Seki, S.-I. (2023)
Genetic structure of the Japanese Robin (Larvivora akahige) endemic to East Asian islands
Ibis (advance online publication)
doi: 10.1111/ibi.13197
Geographical isolation is a key factor in allopatric speciation although divergence with gene flow has been detected in an increasing number of studies, even in island systems. To understand the divergence in island taxa, it is necessary to examine historical gene flow with mainland sister groups, which largely differ due to the various geological and ecological characteristics of each region. The Izu Islands are a chain of young and active volcanic islands in a warm-temperate climate zone that branch off from the middle of the Japanese mainland. Despite the chain's relatively limited isolation, given its proximity to the mainland, the Izu Islands feature endemic bird species and subspecies. The Japanese Robin Larvivora akahige is an endemic breeder on East Asian islands, and there is also a subspecies on the Izu Islands that is different in feather colouration and ecological traits. The population genetic structure of this robin was investigated using nine nuclear microsatellite markers and mitochondrial cytochrome b region sequences. Distinct and recent differentiation between the groups from the Izu Islands and mainland was detected from nuclear loci, although the genetic structure within the mainland group was unclear over the 1900 km habitat chain. The mitochondrial haplotypes were divided into two distant clades, one dominated throughout the robin's range and the other coexisted only on the Izu Islands as a minor type. Those clades were inferred to have diverged independent of the recent differentiation of the two nuclear clusters, although their origins and the mechanism underlying their distribution remain unclear. The geographical characteristics of the Izu Islands may have formed a moderate but long-lasting barrier for gene flow and promoted speciation, as well as serving as a refugia for the preservation of relict lineages, particularly for migratory species which usually move along the mainland chain.
Genetic structure of the Japanese Robin (Larvivora akahige) endemic to East Asian islands
Ibis (advance online publication)
doi: 10.1111/ibi.13197
Geographical isolation is a key factor in allopatric speciation although divergence with gene flow has been detected in an increasing number of studies, even in island systems. To understand the divergence in island taxa, it is necessary to examine historical gene flow with mainland sister groups, which largely differ due to the various geological and ecological characteristics of each region. The Izu Islands are a chain of young and active volcanic islands in a warm-temperate climate zone that branch off from the middle of the Japanese mainland. Despite the chain's relatively limited isolation, given its proximity to the mainland, the Izu Islands feature endemic bird species and subspecies. The Japanese Robin Larvivora akahige is an endemic breeder on East Asian islands, and there is also a subspecies on the Izu Islands that is different in feather colouration and ecological traits. The population genetic structure of this robin was investigated using nine nuclear microsatellite markers and mitochondrial cytochrome b region sequences. Distinct and recent differentiation between the groups from the Izu Islands and mainland was detected from nuclear loci, although the genetic structure within the mainland group was unclear over the 1900 km habitat chain. The mitochondrial haplotypes were divided into two distant clades, one dominated throughout the robin's range and the other coexisted only on the Izu Islands as a minor type. Those clades were inferred to have diverged independent of the recent differentiation of the two nuclear clusters, although their origins and the mechanism underlying their distribution remain unclear. The geographical characteristics of the Izu Islands may have formed a moderate but long-lasting barrier for gene flow and promoted speciation, as well as serving as a refugia for the preservation of relict lineages, particularly for migratory species which usually move along the mainland chain.
I’m a bit perplexed regarding current treatment of Muscicapa flycatchers and allies.
Multiple studies have shown generic reshuffling to be necessary, as implemented by eBird/Clements some years back. For some reason, IOC has yet to act.
Adding to the conundrum, WGAC claims to have gone through Muscicapidae and on Avibase (which seems to be up to date om WGAC decisions) at least Böhm’s, Sooty and Usher’s have been moved out of Muscicapa. However, Tessman’s, Olivaceous and Ashy remain in Muscicapa, which doesn’t make sense genetically (eBird/Clements place them in Fraseria).
A mess, to say the least. Anyone has any insight here?
Multiple studies have shown generic reshuffling to be necessary, as implemented by eBird/Clements some years back. For some reason, IOC has yet to act.
Adding to the conundrum, WGAC claims to have gone through Muscicapidae and on Avibase (which seems to be up to date om WGAC decisions) at least Böhm’s, Sooty and Usher’s have been moved out of Muscicapa. However, Tessman’s, Olivaceous and Ashy remain in Muscicapa, which doesn’t make sense genetically (eBird/Clements place them in Fraseria).
A mess, to say the least. Anyone has any insight here?
Mysticete
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I am confused about the avibase comment. The WGAC checklist is not on Avibase, and while they are posting updates to other checklists, they are the same ones being posted by IOC or Clements. So I don't think there is any sort of extra special clarification Avibase provides.
Current proposals seem to be aimed at resolving differences in what species are recognized. I haven't seen as much effort so far placed on resolving conflict in genera. That might be further off. I asked the IOC folks some times back about the Charadrius issue, and there reply was that they didn't want to make those revisions while the update process was going on. Might be something similar going on with Muscicapidae.
The checklist isn't per se, but the WGAC position is noted under each species.
Mysticete
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The WGAC status may simply reflect the IOC status at the moment in some cases, as IOC provided the baseline list that the WGAC is using as a starting point. It may or may not have significance for the final list. I'm not sure, as I noted above, that they are tackling higher level taxonomy at the moment, including reconciling differences in genera.
Although if this is being kept up to date with WGAC decisions, it's got some interesting information. I note that Scarlet Flycatcher and Franklin's Grouse are not recognized by the WGAC (The former still recognized by IOC), but Myrtle Warbler, American Barn Owl, and Mangrove Warbler are. All three of those species belong to lists which WGAC has allegedly completed review on. Although all of those might be waiting for NACC proposals before reflecting any actual changes. For instance Lemon-rumped Tanager is still recognized by WGAC, despite a proposal to lump it recently added to the IOC page, and I think it has already been voted down by SACC.
Although if this is being kept up to date with WGAC decisions, it's got some interesting information. I note that Scarlet Flycatcher and Franklin's Grouse are not recognized by the WGAC (The former still recognized by IOC), but Myrtle Warbler, American Barn Owl, and Mangrove Warbler are. All three of those species belong to lists which WGAC has allegedly completed review on. Although all of those might be waiting for NACC proposals before reflecting any actual changes. For instance Lemon-rumped Tanager is still recognized by WGAC, despite a proposal to lump it recently added to the IOC page, and I think it has already been voted down by SACC.
Guess we’ll just have to wait and see! 🙂
Jim LeNomenclatoriste
Je suis un mignon petit Traquet rubicole
We, Andrew Tilsley and myself, are pleased to announce that our article: A replacement name for Salsolicola Oatley, 2004 (Aves: Muscicapidae), preoccupied by Salsolicola Kuznetsov, 1960 (Lepidoptera: Tortricidae), is published in the journal Zootaxa.
Tilsley Andrew and Gaudin Jimmy (2023). A replacement name for Salsolicola Oatley, 2004 (Aves: Muscicapidae), preoccupied by Salsolicola Kuznetsov, 1960 (Lepidoptera: Tortricidae). Zootaxa 5271 (1): 196–200.
Say hello to Karoocichla nomen novum
Type species: Sylvia coryphoeus Vieillot, 1817 (now Aedonopsis coryphoeus, or Karoocichla coryphoeus)
Tilsley Andrew and Gaudin Jimmy (2023). A replacement name for Salsolicola Oatley, 2004 (Aves: Muscicapidae), preoccupied by Salsolicola Kuznetsov, 1960 (Lepidoptera: Tortricidae). Zootaxa 5271 (1): 196–200.
Say hello to Karoocichla nomen novum
Type species: Sylvia coryphoeus Vieillot, 1817 (now Aedonopsis coryphoeus, or Karoocichla coryphoeus)
