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Nikon 10x25 Image Stabilized Binocular Review (1 Viewer)

Dave,

Thanks for the video, a bit of an escape to wear a tee shorts and flip flops again. My 9 foot long board collects dust, and that guy is laughing like a kid, love it.

I really think 10X25 has been the most difficult glass to handle, I did have a LX L 10X25 but the 8X20 is more reasonable for me at that size. Let us know how they do over time, I hope Nikon comes up with more of these ideas.

Never take that weather for granted.

Best Regards and Aloha

Andy W.
 
Yea Andy, the weather / light levels can impact things. Man, I really like the little Nikons. I think they are great. They are my car binoculars and I use them to check out the waves at my favorite surf spot on my way home from work. It's probably 2 1/4 miles from my observation point but I can see if there is any action.

Tourism is back open to Hawaii. Come out and catch some waves with me... Video from last month off the Marine Air Base in Kaneohe Bay...8AM bugle call.
https://youtu.be/t95vXZ7OQDc
That is my kind of surfing! You don't have to stand up on the dang board. What happens if it overturns does it right itself like a kayak?
 
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Dave,

Thanks for the video, a bit of an escape to wear a tee shorts and flip flops again. My 9 foot long board collects dust, and that guy is laughing like a kid, love it.

I really think 10X25 has been the most difficult glass to handle, I did have a LX L 10X25 but the 8X20 is more reasonable for me at that size. Let us know how they do over time, I hope Nikon comes up with more of these ideas.

Never take that weather for granted.

Best Regards and Aloha

Andy W.
The Nikon LXL 10x25 is nice compact for the price and very similar in optics to the Nikon 10x25 IS.
 
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The Nikon LXL 10x25 is nice compact for the price and very similar in optics to the Nikon 10x25 IS.

I could never hold them steady, I have an easier time with a 10X42. I think the small size was another drawback for me. With the IS in 10X25 I think Nikon said if it can work on a 10X25, it can work on a 10X42 also. I really believe Nikon will expand the line within a year.

Andy W.
 
I could never hold them steady, I have an easier time with a 10X42. I think the small size was another drawback for me. With the IS in 10X25 I think Nikon said if it can work on a 10X25, it can work on a 10X42 also. I really believe Nikon will expand the line within a year.

Andy W.

Andy:
That is an interesting wish, but I don't think we will see IS from Nikon in the larger sizes. It does not sell, just look at Canon, and their small efforts.

It serves mostly as a design exercise, and good to see they are doing it.

They have had the Nikon-Kowa collaberation some years ago with IS.

Jerry
 
Personally I think the reason that IS in mid size formats 8X to larger 18x by Canon may not be so popular is the size of the glass esp. (15X50 and 18X50), even the Canon IS 10X42 is a bit large IMO. If IS could be made into a glass such as the size your SF 10X42, sales could increase. One never knows. It will be interesting to see how the 10X25 IS sells in Japan.

Andy W.
 
Personally I think the reason that IS in mid size formats 8X to larger 18x by Canon may not be so popular is the size of the glass esp. (15X50 and 18X50), even the Canon IS 10X42 is a bit large IMO. If IS could be made into a glass such as the size your SF 10X42, sales could increase. One never knows. It will be interesting to see how the 10X25 IS sells in Japan.

Andy W.
Kite makes a pretty nice line of IS binoculars. MIJ probably by Kamakura but heck so is the Zeiss Victory 8x25 that every body likes so much. Kite makes a 10x30 IS,12x30 IS, 12x42 IS and a 16x42 IS. I just bought the 16x42 IS and it is pretty nice. I like it better than the Canon's and it is much smaller and only weighs 28 oz. with two AA batteries in it. I know the exit pupil is small for you but you can see a heck of a lot of detail with them. Check it out.

https://www.kiteoptics.com/en/hunting/product/244/bino-apc-stabilized-42/
 

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I have decided to keep the Nikon 10x25 IS compact binocular's. I use a compact once in a while, and they are still the best compacts I have found. They don't have the optics of the Swarovski CL-P 10x25 or the Zeiss Victory 10x25 but with the IS engaged and a steady image you can see much more detail than either.
 
What are the weak points compared to the Zeiss Victory 10x25? I only own the 8x25, I like it, it is an excellent compromise between weigth an performance. Two years ago I purchaised the Canon 14x32 IS as a replacment of the 10x42 IS with is excellent but too big an heavy for me. At the beginning I was enthusastic about the 14x32 IS but after some time CA is too no noticable for me. Would you recomment the Nikon 10x25 IS based on what I wrote?

Many thanks

Thomas
 
With regards to the battery type used, I think it's very appropriate to the design of the binocular. CR123 requires a significantly larger housing that the CR2 and AA (format) is really out of the question due to length. Compromises have to be made when attaining IS is this size. If a person is going to "bird all day" I think you're probably right, the binocular might not be for you. If you don't mind replacing the battery in the field, there's probably no reason that it couldn't be an "all day" birding bin but how many people are using a 10x25 as their primary / "all day" birding binocular, regardless? For many people, a larger EP and brighter image are preferred.

I've seen no actual "run-time" test associated with this model but it's safe to say that the stated, 3-3.5 hours of stated runtime is probably over stated. Manufacturers typically report best case scenarios when it comes to battery life and duty cycle greatly effects battery life. A continuous discharge from a Li CR2 will result in much shorter run-times than when used for 1 minute increments , spread over a 12 hour period. I have many flashlights/torches in the CR2 format and run-time varies wildly with duty cycle, even at lower discharge rates.

With regards to the stated capacity of rechargeable 3.0V Li-Ion CR2's, they will never have the same energy density as CR2 3.0V Lithium (primary) cells from Duracell, Energizer, Panasonic, Sanyo, which have an actual capacity of 750-850mAh. Rechargeable, Li-Ion 3.0V CR2's (different chemistry than lithium) have an actual capacity of 300-400mAh. I realize that examples were given of advertisers on Amazon claiming 800mAh capacity for these rechargeable 3.0V li-ion's but these manufacturers.... all Chinese, can print any capacity number they want to on the cell and it doesn't mean anything. While there's no central point of reference data for these Rechargeable Li-ion 3.0V cells, the various flashlight/torch forums are your best source, when trying to determine actual capacity.

The point of all of this is to say that if you are going to use Rechargeable Li-ion 3.0V cells, expect run-times that are about half of what they are for the standard CR2 Lithium. There's no free lunch and your giving up performance to use the rechargeable 3.0V cell.

The most important part:
Please do not mistake these non-standard, Rechargeable 3.0V Li-Ion cells with standard 3.7V (nominal) Li-Ion, (4.2 volt max) cells, which will likely exceed the rated voltage of devices like the Nikon. If you don't know the difference, don't take the chance and just use standard, non-rechargeable, CR2 Lithium cells from Duracell, Energizer, Panasonic and Sanyo.
 
With regards to the battery type used, I think it's very appropriate to the design of the binocular. CR123 requires a significantly larger housing that the CR2 and AA (format) is really out of the question due to length. Compromises have to be made when attaining IS is this size. If a person is going to "bird all day" I think you're probably right, the binocular might not be for you. If you don't mind replacing the battery in the field, there's probably no reason that it couldn't be an "all day" birding bin but how many people are using a 10x25 as their primary / "all day" birding binocular, regardless? For many people, a larger EP and brighter image are preferred.

I've seen no actual "run-time" test associated with this model but it's safe to say that the stated, 3-3.5 hours of stated runtime is probably over stated. Manufacturers typically report best case scenarios when it comes to battery life and duty cycle greatly effects battery life. A continuous discharge from a Li CR2 will result in much shorter run-times than when used for 1 minute increments , spread over a 12 hour period. I have many flashlights/torches in the CR2 format and run-time varies wildly with duty cycle, even at lower discharge rates.

With regards to the stated capacity of rechargeable 3.0V Li-Ion CR2's, they will never have the same energy density as CR2 3.0V Lithium (primary) cells from Duracell, Energizer, Panasonic, Sanyo, which have an actual capacity of 750-850mAh. Rechargeable, Li-Ion 3.0V CR2's (different chemistry than lithium) have an actual capacity of 300-400mAh. I realize that examples were given of advertisers on Amazon claiming 800mAh capacity for these rechargeable 3.0V li-ion's but these manufacturers.... all Chinese, can print any capacity number they want to on the cell and it doesn't mean anything. While there's no central point of reference data for these Rechargeable Li-ion 3.0V cells, the various flashlight/torch forums are your best source, when trying to determine actual capacity.

The point of all of this is to say that if you are going to use Rechargeable Li-ion 3.0V cells, expect run-times that are about half of what they are for the standard CR2 Lithium. There's no free lunch and your giving up performance to use the rechargeable 3.0V cell.

The most important part: Please do not mistake these non-standard, Rechargeable 3.0V Li-Ion cells with standard 3.7V (nominal) Li-Ion, (4.2 volt max) cells, which will likely exceed the rated voltage of devices like the Nikon. If you don't know the difference, don't take the chance and just use standard, non-rechargeable, CR2 Lithium cells from Duracell, Energizer, Panasonic and Sanyo.
You seems to be knowledgeable about the batteries: can you give us a few options, links ?
Much thanks
Denis
 
Following this thread, I did order this Binoculars through Ebay. I am new to IS but as a biologist and general nature observer, I am very happy with my new acquisition. Out of reach plants details (vascular, lichens, mosses) can now be seen much easier than any non IS can allow you to see. Like you all know, no binoculars are perfect, it’s true for that one too ! It fullfill a particular niche and will complete my non IS binoculars collection. I use a Maxpedition M-1 waist pack to carry it with plenty of room for a Lenspen and others.

Pros
-IS is engaging fast.
-The binoculars looks like a standard binoculars.
-Optics quality is great and will be enough for most of us but the purists.
-The IS feature is expanding the binoculars capabilities over any other (hand held) binoculars.
-Fairly compact and ok as for the weight.

Cons
-On/off switch will inadvertently go on for sure if you carry the binoculars in a backpack, or even putting it in a pouch or in a pocket…
-It is a battery eating device, I do not care myself to change the batteries 2-3 time a day but the cost is a drawback: each CR2 can cost between 4-15CAN….
-The fact that the binoculars is about useless when powered off (become an almost useless monocular) is another drawback for me.
-Not fully waterproof….
-Not officially for sale in NA so you have to take care of it as repairing might be problematic…
 
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