NoSpringChicken
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Do the eyecups on the ELs pull out or twist out to the required position? If they pull out do they stay in place all right?
Ron
Ron
Is that the standard rainguard or a special rainguard?
My only concern with winged eyecups is condensation from lack of air circulation.
Also, ThoLa, is that 'functional bag', on the Swaro link you posted, the standard case supplied with the 8x32ELs?
Do the eyecups on the ELs pull out or twist out to the required position? If they pull out do they stay in place all right?
Ron
Forgive me for being a bit dense here but if the normal eyecups twist out to the desired position, how does that work with the winged eyecups. Can you rotate the wings when the eyecups are in the correct position or have I misunderstood how they work?
Ron
Thanks Robert. In that case I still don't quite understand how you can twist the eyecups out to the correct position and then adjust the position of the wings without changing the eyecup position which you have just set. Unless the wings are an additional piece which clips over the existing eyecup.They twist. There are no click stops, but positions are firm and stable at any point on the turn.
Thomas and I ... (we're both confusing, and confused, enough in real time).
(Dr. "Freud" - Did we not synchronize our watches when last in Geneva?)
Is the 'functional bag' made of plastic?
Dialyt, you should pay Black & Lizars a visit, at 8 Wellington Place, Belfast. I personally found the gentleman behind the counter less than welcoming and helpful, to the extent that I took my business elsewhere, but they do stock Swarovski and Leica binoculars. (Perhaps I didn't look like a serious customer because I'm in my mid-twenties.)
Swarovski make beautiful binoculars, but they haven't a clue about the importance of online marketing. Their website is comically bad: ugly and dysfunctional. Even ancient German companies like Zeiss and Leica have more useful websites, with large glossy PDF brochures available for download. These give one an idea of the "fit and finish" and "look and feel" of the products, which is essential information for making a choice.
The internet is where most people research a major purchase these days, and premium binoculars are things one tends to mull over for a long time before making the commitment (or maybe that's just me?). Lots of places in Europe have poor access to binocular stores, and the storekeepers are loath to let one just mess about with a bunch of binoculars for literally hours, only to leave without buying anything, and perhaps repeat this process for a few days over a couple of weeks before buying. But that service is the only thing they can offer over online stores! Their inability to see this astonishes me, and their fate is guaranteed if they don't wake up soon. The market of dupes who can't comparison-shop online is rapidly becoming extinct, and nobody will knowingly pay more if there is no added value.
Whoops, I'm ranting about the sheer ineptitude of the marketing and selling of binoculars once again. Apologies all around.
Give Black & Lizars a visit; I may have had bad luck there. Or maybe cross the pond and check out US stores, where customer service seems to be given some consideration. Prices are far better there too, due to the current exchange rate, better competition, and economies of scale.
Swarovski make beautiful binoculars, but they haven't a clue about the importance of online marketing. Their website is comically bad: ugly and dysfunctional. Even ancient German companies like Zeiss and Leica have more useful websites, with large glossy PDF brochures available for download. These give one an idea of the "fit and finish" and "look and feel" of the products, which is essential information for making a choice.
From reading this thread I think the Swarovski EL 8x32 is currently top of my list for binoculars to try out.
The real question is: do I buy a cheapskate DSLR camera and telephoto lens or a top notch 'lifetime' binocular? I can't afford both. I think the binocular will probably win.
Ron
I have to agree with Tom. I can't find a lot wrong with the Swarovski site. The worst one I have found is Nikon's. Unless they have updated it recently, there is no mention of the ED50 scope on the UK site anywhere, and that must be one of their best selling lines at the moment.
Ron
Just my opinion, of course, but a considered one since I make my living behind a camera!
Robert
I have to agree with Tom. I can't find a lot wrong with the Swarovski site.
Ron
The worst one I have found is Nikon's.
Ron